Alternate Farming issues

LionelDraco
Archmage
The Animators in Singapore BG are facing an issue whereby an alternate farmer, mainly Ulquorra/Omaba, has been alternate farming at Punggol Park realm, causing an unfair disadvantage to us. This has been observed for an extended period of time and we have since tried to bring it up to his green accounts. However, he insisted that the other players were not him and were his "neighbours", and that he has no control over their action.

The first appearance I witnessed was Animator Account UcannotZapMe, who offered me assistance when I just started. I had accepted the assistance back then as I was unaware of the issues. However, it was slowly observed that whenever UcannotZapMe is grinding for the leaderboard, Architect accounts Omaba or Triax will disappear. Alternatively, whenever Omaba or Triax is grinding for the leaderboard, the others stopped. Subsequent accounts include an old mage account Huatah and a new account UIquorra.

It was when the occurrence of these happenings that myself and joysius from the Architect decided to keep observation of the matter. The initial screenshots has missed the gateway turning orange however joysius and myself manage to capture this:





Subsequently at another time, we observed that Omaba was attacking a Dominator attached to one Animator account, mainly one LearDodger:






It can be argued that that proves nothing, and I agree. However, the said Animator account has never appeared in the leaderboard nor made any contact with other SG BG Animators. And the account also remains a low level mage despite the many medals accumulated. In another instance, we saw Dominators of 8888, an Animator account, at Omaba's gateway together with his Dominators. The said account also remains a low level account with many medals.





On another occasion, joysius has also caught the following happening, with UIquorra banishing an Animator low level account 88888.




The rate that this player alternate farm is rampant, attaining a total score per round of 30plus thousand nearing 40,000.




Another account uncovered is 888888.




The alternate farming has resulted in his score reaching heights of 49888, with about a few hours to spare, during the campaign whereby AHC doms and ABC doms appear.




There was another time where he actually did it in the faces of other players with disregard about fairplay, as shown below.









Neighbours do not spawn in each other like how these 2 players does. Only people in the same house connected to the same WiFi will have that effect. There are times whereby his doms were spotted all at the same place, effectively helping the Architects gain plenty of points via harvesting. IF this is allowed, I believe every Animator should do the same.




You can observe in the next few photos that Omaba and UIquorra spawns at the same spot.






And finally, a few days back, I observed that one Beacon for one Animator account Misterlane was up and running near a highway overseeing Punggol Park Realm. I went there and had observed the following:















The said Misterlane subsequently came back and set another beacon, effectively killing the power to it. At some point after that, I brought it up with the SG BG OJs, who agreed that they will look into the matter. However, after that point, the score of the said UIquorra soared like a rocketship, with his ending score stopping at 58,338. Screen shot as follows:




There are times where we resort to camping him, to no avail. He has also launched several attacks on our bases, raiding us from his spot because of his personal vendetta with us with regards to this issue. We had wanted to talk things out about this matter. However, he refuses to listen and went immediately to the Architects side and alternate farm. No attempts were made to stop him, as according to joysius's observations in their team.

I am bringing this matter up, as I always see other respected Architects from other BGs supporting him, raiding us, helping him fend off our camping in order to stop his alternate farming. This particular player has also been very arrogant about his doings, showing no remorse and in total disregard of players, belittling many of the Animators in Singapore BG due to our actions to stop him.

I have since email-ed GA with regards to this issue and their reply was that 'the issue has been taken care of'. Exactly what was taken care of?

I am also bringing this issue up as our fellow Animator, Ratnut, has lost sleep and plenty of his time to grind from the start of the said round non stop in order to obtain the score. However, he failed to maintain first and we lost our point lead.

Kindly, discuss, or do whatever you mages deem fit. We Animators in SG BG has run out of ideas as he is getting plenty of support from Local OJs and International OJs. We are all on the verge of just quitting the game as well due to frustration.

To list down, the following accounts were observed to be spawning at the same point and were used by UIquorra/Omaba regularly:

Animator accounts:
Huatah
UcannotZapMe
8888
88888
888888
6789
Da-Bluz
Saycheese
Misterlane
prissylaine
Aomame


Architect accounts:
Omaba
UIquorra
Triax
TonyTan
Shooo

There are still plenty of others, which we have lost count of. NazhNazhNazhy, Francislau, WhiteWizard and many other Animators from SG BG have observed the matter I mentioned above and have also observed these low lvl accounts appearing. I understand that on both sides there are alternate farmers, but it is everyone's duty to keep it low and to stamp it out eventually. However, the Singapore Architects seem supportive of UIquorra/Omaba's actions, as there are certain points in the round whereby a low lvl Architect will be among the Top 5 or Top 10.

We are lost as to what to do now. GA says the 'issued has been taken care of', the Singapore Architects inform that they will keep it in check but immediately after that, UIquorra clocked a score of 58,338. What are we to do?

Pipipapupi
Master
The Animators of Singapore BG has hence been on strike from Shadow Cities as these alternate farming are abusing the game so much that there is no longer anymore meaning in playing this game. Shadow Cities is an amazing game but exploiters simply killed the game.
joysius
Enlightened
👍👍👍 good job👍👍👍
joysius
Enlightened
Support fair play, all ! :X
WhiteWizard
Enlightened
Thanks Draco, I have also been tolerating his deplorable actions. I really feel for those who really grind, Animators or Architect alike, in legit way and lose their rightful reward at the end of each round!

I do understand GA's predicament, but I sincerely hope that some action be taken upon such rampant act.
Croyance
Archmage
To be honest, this has already caused alot of old timers from SG BG Green leaving the game. No matter how much they grind, Ulquorra will just within 3 hours gather 20k-30k worth of energy. 1 of the OJ say if he see us grind hard enough he will speak to Ulquorra but from the energy gathered, Ratnut gathered 40458, Qiang-x gathered 17215 with many others grinding below the shot of the photo is not yet hard enough? That OJ expect us to grind what? 30k worth of energy per player? I doubt the OJ from SG BG will do anything about it.
Raven313
Enlightened
I, too, feel that something needs to be done about this matter. I have seen one of the users alternate farming, and he expresses no remorse at all. Once, he even requested for us to stop bothering him and let him farm in peace. There is no meaning in the game if this goes on. If the main objective is to win, so be it. However, cheating to win is certainly not a way to play the game. I hope that GA will do something about this matter as well. OJs have also admitted to sharing accounts as well. SmokeScreen is one of these accounts. (I'm not too sure about the username and it is pretty inactive now, but it was definitely a shared account.)

And Draco, thanks and good job for SS-ing those!

Edited by Raven313 (April 6, 2012 09:04:34)

LionelCer
Magister
In a game, there certainly will be cheaters. Problem is, most of the other players from the Architects SGBG supports these cheating ways. It is very unfair for the Animators as we put in alot of efforts playing the game in a fair and proper manner.


Even if we weren't to take a side, it is still unfair to be an Architect and see a fellow teammate cheating his way up the leader board by means of alternate farming.


This game has two main purpose, individual score to climb the leader board and to have overall win from either side.


Omaba/Ulquorra and his many accounts is bring very unfair and selfish to everyone inclusive of his own teammates from the Architects. If one player from the Architects would play it fair and spent every single minute playing this game, being unable to top the leader board because of this particular cheater.

Then can I ask, what is the purpose of this game?

GA has said that they will look into this matter, but if nothing is going to be done about it, this game will no longer be played by a very big percentage of current players.

This includes of hardcore players who will actually buy pots just to play the game!

Does GA wants to lose most of this "customer base" as they choose to ignore the problems which was brought up to them?


Why does one black sheep get to ruin a good fun game for all players from both side ?


This player is a disgrace and should be ashamed of his cheating ways, but apparently it is something to be proud of!!


GA, HOW MANY SCREEN SHOTS DOES IT TAIES FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THAT SOMETHING MUST BE DONE IF NOT MOST OF US ARE TO BOYCOTT THIS GAME???
WhiteWizard
Enlightened
If GA wants proof of his doing, I believe the best proof lies in the server log! It should have capture the IP address, time and action of each player. Thus, checking the log would confirm on our findings that indeed all those accounts mentioned would come from the same IP address. No doubt another question would be that they could belong to the same family member. However, isn't that also being unfair to legit players as they would have collude to gain an advantage? Hope something could be done to stop these.

I was at a point of giving up the game as this mentioned Ulquorra/Omaba is just a leap away from my base and I have personally witness his farming right in my face. Fortunately, I have a group of great SGBG teammates who made me returned to the game.
Emika
Enlightened
Nice! May I ask what you think about 2v2 battles? To many it seems to be cheating... I fully support you, I say we all camp him. It's like CoreyTrevor all over again -.-

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