Not cheaters getting ban. Wow.
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- Anvar
- Archmage
"Spoofers. Exactly. Have they banned any GPS coordinate spoofers? No-one knows except GA."
Yes, I know of specifically a number of spoofers banned by GA, because they are acquaintances of mine.
Yes, I know of specifically a number of spoofers banned by GA, because they are acquaintances of mine.
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- Anvar
- Archmage
Question: Lazerus, are you a dev sympathizer (not that it really matters to me), because you just seem to make an excuse for everything GA does. Or, are you an employee of GA running an alt account? OR, are you just being contrary for attention, and trolling? I guess there are a few out there who have a raging love how things are run here (I know of at least one other), but it's difficult to wrap my head around.
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- Lazarus
- Seeker
Anvar
"Spoofers. Exactly. Have they banned any GPS coordinate spoofers? No-one knows except GA."
Yes, I know of specifically a number of spoofers banned by GA, because they are acquaintances of mine.
Oh, my mistake. Must have happened during my break. Good to hear!
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- Lazarus
- Seeker
Anvar
Question: Lazerus, are you a dev sympathizer (not that it really matters to me), because you just seem to make an excuse for everything GA does. Or, are you an employee of GA running an alt account? OR, are you just being contrary for attention, and trolling? I guess there are a few out there who have a raging love how things are run here (I know of at least one other), but it's difficult to wrap my head around.
I think I stated earlier in this thread that I know some GA staff personally and have met many of them. I'm not an employee, although I came close to becoming one year ago during the beta phase.
For these reasons I believe in them and what they are doing more than I believe in the banned players' claims of innocence.
I base this on knowing people IRL instead of trusting people I've been playing with online. Of course I could be wrong.
If stating my different opinion is in your mind making up excuses or trolling, fine.
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Also, I never said I love how things are run in SC. I agreed on that instead of direct bans there should be warnings and that GA should be more open about the reasons (if they can). In fact I have for long (since november 2010) been one of the most vocal players against the direction GA is taking the game.
Some people are comparing GA's style of running SC to a police state, well how about this...
The in game protest in Helsinki made the game virtually unplayable for players who live or work in the protest area. They had no choice, but to submit or not play the game.
The players (also others than those who live in the area) who continued playing normally, i.e. attacking enemies and their structures in the protest area, were attacked, verbally abused and ordered to submit by the "peaceful protesters".
And now, after stating my opposing opinion of some things, I'm being blamed for trolling or being a GA lackey.
How's that for oppression?
Edited by Lazarus (May 26, 2012 13:40:02)
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- Sekou
- Enlightened
Lazarus
The in game protest in Helsinki made the game virtually unplayable for players who live or work in the protest area. They had no choice, but to submit or not play the game.
The players (also others than those who live in the area) who continued playing normally, i.e. attacking enemies and their structures in the protest area, were attacked, verbally abused and ordered to submit by the "peaceful protesters".
And now, after stating my opposing opinion of some things, I'm being blamed for trolling or being a GA lackey.
How's that for oppression?
Pretty weak, actually.
People who wanted to play without a protest around them have a beacon list. They can use it and grind elsewhere.
And he wasn't blaming you for anything, he was trying to better understand your motives in posting the comments you've posted.
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- Lazarus
- Seeker
Sekou
Pretty weak, actually.
People who wanted to play without a protest around them have a beacon list. They can use it and grind elsewhere.
Harvesting was impossible for them. It's a huge part of the game (unfortunately).
And the game often crashed when they logged in.
But those were the least of the problems. The general attitude and abuse toward nonconformists was a sad thing to see and in my mind should have led to bans (with a far better reason than cheating in a game).
Sekou
And he wasn't blaming you for anything, he was trying to better understand your motives in posting the comments you've posted.
He made it sound like he was trying to defame me instead of discussing the topic at hand. And how do you know what he was trying to do?
What have my motives got to do with this anyway? The points I raised are still worth considering as some others have pointed out.
Edited by Lazarus (May 26, 2012 15:34:02)
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- Lazarus
- Seeker
Sekou
And if it's not at least mildly disruptive, it's not a protest.
I guess my point was that there should not have been one.
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- Darknesslies
- Archmage
GA the events leading up to this weekend are varied. Since the start, you have not listened to you clients. We have asked for fixes changes and better content. For a while there was some creative content that made the game. New then you started messing around with battle groups making them so big that you couldn't get help or help the ones you wanted to because the status would disappear before any one saw it. I try to be fair and play fair but really what does cheating involve. I know the was a group who maufactued mana and bought up everyone's realms but since then I don't know. You have refused to give us rules and you randomly change the game rather than fixing what is broke. I don't think I will come back. I have devoted so much time to this game and money but you have not treated us with respect and listened to what we want or for the last five months no new content if you've seen one spider you seen them all. One person out of 100 gets the kill and everyone else very little maybe a sigil. So whether you have played one sec in the fight or 5 minutes you may still end up with nothing. After nine months I'm bored and you have abused my trust. Beacons contine to only be given credit to the last hit which allows players to swoop in and take the lady shot with no loss of time or pots. You have reduced the rewards we get so much that only a few get it no matter what you score. Most of your client bade are adults not 10 year olds but you give out prizes for five year olds (i.e. stickers). And if you play long enough to find a rick to playing the game, you get banned in mass because it is cheating. Nevermind that no one has defined what is cheating and glitches, lag and friend lists go haywire for no reason. When we complain, we are always told that you know what is best for the game. I'm probably older than all of you at GA and honestly, I haven't blindly followed anyone since I was 5. My fellow players aren't blind either. We earn the respect of other players and expect to be treated with respect by GA. Show us you respect us by making it clear what is or is not cheating. I can guarantee if we know what it is we will know who is doing it and report it long before you even suspect. I'm sad to be leaving but you have not demonstrated your faith in us to self police and govern our own battle groups. No one likes your dictatorship. Imprisonment(banning) without a chance to face the accuser went out 240 years ago. Explain how and why or lose us all.
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- FeRaLcHiLdE2
- Archmage
So we have been asking for clarification, transparency, or any answer that won't just deflect the issue irresponsibly.. Many here have asked or demanded such while specifically mentioning the wish for more comprehensible responses. Here is what we get:
This gives us EXACTLY the same information we had before you posted Chad.
Why did you bother? Is this an insult from GA to their clientelle? It certainly feels like one.
Chadj
We apologize for any frustration, doubt, or confusion that our recent actions regarding account closures have caused some of you. As stated previously, accounts are only closed when we've identified and confirmed irrefutably that repeated attempts to manipulate Shadow Cities game's systems have and continue to occur.
We understand the very natural desire to defend and believe in the innocence of those closest to you, however, we must remain objective in our handling of the situation and rely exclusively on what our tool's data confirms.
All of the information we are willing to release on this matter can be found on our 'Exploits & Cheating in Shadow Cities FAQ' - http://www.shadowcities.com/forum/topic/3217/
This gives us EXACTLY the same information we had before you posted Chad.
Why did you bother? Is this an insult from GA to their clientelle? It certainly feels like one.
Edited by FeRaLcHiLdE2 (May 27, 2012 01:52:48)