This is too much. Show some respect.
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- Chuckie25
- Visionary
I was banned once. I made do.
Actually if you look at the accounts tied to my email you'll see there are about 5 banned accounts
Actually if you look at the accounts tied to my email you'll see there are about 5 banned accounts
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- Marco1
- Archmage
Some considerations and details for Norequest
Yes, I'm one of the banned players, as I have clearly written .. not as you write "apparently"!
From your first sentence I understand that you have not understood or read my post at all.
Some data:
Average Campaign en = 38 685 (36 campaign)
Average Rounds en = 12895 (108 rounds)
Campaign Max en = 93492 (one with YG and Tomte --- btw: there are active players and not banned that have touched 100K per round)
The realm Trecate: +116 wil buff. This leads to making missions more quickly and less mana consume (about 20-40% compared to your stats)
A vague memory: during a war that lasted about 10-15 min, 50 burning pot for about 1.5-2.5 k (50-80 ban, 3-4 ban missions, 2-3 missions ward e/o bc) .. Have you ever tried to take 5-6 spiders in a row? (counting the double-triple score you can get almost 1k)
You tell me you are active on various forums. Ok I have no doubt and given your experience I ask you:
- See that there's a lot more communication from the GO?
- See that the speed with which you are working on bugs is much higher?
- See that the normal treatment, especially in the case of ban due to bugs and especially if these bugs are not known or well defined and identified, is resolved with a suspension of the account for 1 day-1 week?
- See that in case a problem like this appear is explained e promptly fixed?
- See that the rules of the games most used are infinitely long?
- Understand that they are so long, accurate and articulate precisely because it wants to avoid such unpleasant situations?
You're talking about ethical actions, I speak to you of what you can or can not do by rules. Rather ethics should be better used in the client-company relationship.
You ask me "what did you do"
This is my problem!
And this is the community question and concern.
I do not know and I can not have an answer for several reasons:
- Not well-defined rules
- Infinite number of crashes, bugs, other
- Lack of communication by the GA
As always Ty for your point of view
Yes, I'm one of the banned players, as I have clearly written .. not as you write "apparently"!
From your first sentence I understand that you have not understood or read my post at all.
Some data:
Average Campaign en = 38 685 (36 campaign)
Average Rounds en = 12895 (108 rounds)
Campaign Max en = 93492 (one with YG and Tomte --- btw: there are active players and not banned that have touched 100K per round)
The realm Trecate: +116 wil buff. This leads to making missions more quickly and less mana consume (about 20-40% compared to your stats)
A vague memory: during a war that lasted about 10-15 min, 50 burning pot for about 1.5-2.5 k (50-80 ban, 3-4 ban missions, 2-3 missions ward e/o bc) .. Have you ever tried to take 5-6 spiders in a row? (counting the double-triple score you can get almost 1k)
You tell me you are active on various forums. Ok I have no doubt and given your experience I ask you:
- See that there's a lot more communication from the GO?
- See that the speed with which you are working on bugs is much higher?
- See that the normal treatment, especially in the case of ban due to bugs and especially if these bugs are not known or well defined and identified, is resolved with a suspension of the account for 1 day-1 week?
- See that in case a problem like this appear is explained e promptly fixed?
- See that the rules of the games most used are infinitely long?
- Understand that they are so long, accurate and articulate precisely because it wants to avoid such unpleasant situations?
You're talking about ethical actions, I speak to you of what you can or can not do by rules. Rather ethics should be better used in the client-company relationship.
You ask me "what did you do"
This is my problem!
And this is the community question and concern.
I do not know and I can not have an answer for several reasons:
- Not well-defined rules
- Infinite number of crashes, bugs, other
- Lack of communication by the GA
As always Ty for your point of view
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- Lazarus
- Seeker
DoMortas
And to be honest, using an in game exploit is not cheating, and should not be a reason for banning someone, if GA doesn't want us to do it, then they should patch it so we can't..
Heimo
As an iPhone user, I assume that the game executable, which I have installed from the App Store, defines the rules with which the players play. I have not read any forum posts, guides or game rules before this Bangate. It's insane that GA expects mobile game players to read some separate guidelines for being able to play the game.
So does this mean that you want GA to stop banning people for any reason?
That was the situation a year ago. Then the community started demanding for them to start banning "cheaters".
It seems that the community wants to be the doing the banning by their own rules.
So how about banning by voting?
Going by what you say means that alt farming and gps spoofing is okay. In my mind those two break the game. What's the point in a location based game that lets you spoof you location?
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- DoMortas
- Enlightened
Nope, I totally agree with banning cheaters, and anyone else using anything outside the game. But when it comes to the code GA wrote, and any loopholes found within the code.. I say no, fix the problem instead of banning..
As for alt farmers, yes ban them! Because that requires using 2 or more accounts, so not part of the game as it was meant to be played, But blast warping.. Remote harvesting, and any other little bug or glitch.. No, I don't agree with banning just because GA doesn't feel the need to patch it... If you don't want people to do it, make it so they can't..
As for alt farmers, yes ban them! Because that requires using 2 or more accounts, so not part of the game as it was meant to be played, But blast warping.. Remote harvesting, and any other little bug or glitch.. No, I don't agree with banning just because GA doesn't feel the need to patch it... If you don't want people to do it, make it so they can't..
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- Heimo
- Magister
If GA code has a rabbit hole, it should be part of the legal rules. Alt farmers should be banned, but not without warning the user about that. There's no need for voting, all I would like to see is predictability from GA side.
Just in case you have not noticed, this thread from LionelDrago has a nice report showing cheating in action http://www.shadowcities.com/forum/topic/3187/
Just in case you have not noticed, this thread from LionelDrago has a nice report showing cheating in action http://www.shadowcities.com/forum/topic/3187/
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- comicy
- Archmage
Is it an exploit that new players have free mana ads which give them mana-refill-every-minute until few weeks ago? Remember, old players don't have them. Is it considered unfair advantage in the game? Definitely!
So based on GA's logic, all accounts which have ever used free-mana-refill should be banned.
So based on GA's logic, all accounts which have ever used free-mana-refill should be banned.
Edited by comicy (May 28, 2012 04:11:07)
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- comicy
- Archmage
What is your original account, Norequest? I don't think a level 14 really knows about grinding. We can discuss more once you tell us who you really are.
Norequest
Well thats my point I have read what the community has said. My point is its all hear say. None of it is actually based in any kind of quantifiable fact. Its all this person said or this person got banned and they were a good person. And things like whats an exploit and what isn't. Its easy if your doing something that is ethically questionable or in the bounds of exploiting weakness in the server/game. Then you get banned. Seems perfectly logical to me. I'll say this one last thing. I have been on the top of the leader boards before more than once. maybe not number 1 but defiantly top 10 and the scores were nowhere near as high as they were a couple weeks ago. There was more likely than not, funny business happening.
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- Anvar
- Archmage
I find it amusing thay whenever a member of the player population speaks up about fixes which should occur in the app and transparency from the devs, someone is always quick to focus in on a particular account being banned. This is a smokescreen and diversionary tactic to avoid the main argument. We're told by others to, in so many words, shut up and eat what's given to us. In every post I've seen in-game, on this forum, or in other media such as FB, these diversions are thrown out.
The grievances a large contingent of the player base has include:
1.bugs/glitches which have not been fixed in a year (possibly more going back to closed beta)
2.appearant arbitrary justice meted out, with no specific explanation given
3.vague rules to avoid "abuse/exploitation" of the app
4.lack of new content
5.the progressive reduction of dev and mod interaction and communication with the player base
This is not about any one player. This is about PR and the direction the game is going. Currently, it is in neutral and slowly sliding backwards, from my view.
The grievances a large contingent of the player base has include:
1.bugs/glitches which have not been fixed in a year (possibly more going back to closed beta)
2.appearant arbitrary justice meted out, with no specific explanation given
3.vague rules to avoid "abuse/exploitation" of the app
4.lack of new content
5.the progressive reduction of dev and mod interaction and communication with the player base
This is not about any one player. This is about PR and the direction the game is going. Currently, it is in neutral and slowly sliding backwards, from my view.
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- Norequest
- Arcanist
comicy
What is your original account, Norequest? I don't think a level 14 really knows about grinding. We can discuss more once you tell us who you really are.
Im the same account and used to play a lot more frequently last year. Paranoid much? I grinded hard as hell till I hit 14 and stopped. I have campaign medals that go back to before last summer. LOL hilarious. OK I'm over it.... have fun complaining about being cheaters. smh............
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- comicy
- Archmage
I see. So you should know grinding for 10,000 energy per round by just harvesting alone is pretty easy then.